AITKEN to WHAITE - Person Sheet
AITKEN to WHAITE - Person Sheet
NameJohn THORP 
Birth Datebef 28 Sep 1834
Birth PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
MemoThe 1851 census gives birth in 1835 in Manchester and 1841 gives birth 1834. 1881 census also gives 1831 as birth year. The 1851 census gives birth year as 1834 in Ashton under Lyne.
Chr Date28 Sep 183412131 Age: <1
Chr PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
MemoAt the Cathedral. Parents Thomas, a porter and Frances.
Death DateDec 188912132 Age: 55
Death PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
MemoThere are other possible deaths 1881-91 but appears most likely as registered Manchester. As recorded above birth was as early as 1831 which agrees with age of 59 years.
OccupationGlass Blower (1851), Chandler(1857), Shopkeeper (1863 >), Greengrocer (1865-1869 >), Provision Dealer (1871-1877 >), Greengrocer (1881)
FatherThomas THORP (1809-1873)
MotherFrances MULVENEY (ca1811-1885)
Spouses
Birth Dateca 1834
Birth PlaceAshton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
MemoFrom 1871 census.
Death DateMar 189112133 Age: 57
Death PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
OccupationProvision Dealer (1871)
FatherWilliam WHITNEY (1804-1856)
MotherElizabeth HUGHES (1805-1870)
Marr PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
Marr MemoThis marriage was at the Cathedral. John was 22, a chandler and Mary aged 19. John lived at 13 Violet Street Hulme and Mary at 59 Welcomb Street Hulme. John's father was Thomas , a Striller? and Mary's was William, a warehouse man.
This is the most likely Mary to marry John Thorp although their ages are a little young and Mary in the 1851 census is given as being born in Derby or perhaps it is Denton which is close to Ashton it is not very clear. The occupation Chandler of John could be considered a provision agent as shown in later census but directed more specifically to a shipping supplier. Hopefully more research will determine if this assumption is correct.
If the wife of John Thorp wasn’t Mary Whitney then a Mary Mather who Married a John Thorpe in 1855 in Ashton upon Lyne might be an interesting possibility as Mather is the surname of Thomas Whaite’s third wife Amy Malvina Mather.
This is the most likely Mary to marry John Thorp although their ages are a little young and Mary in the 1851 census is given as being born in Derby or perhaps it is Denton which is close to Ashton it is not very clear. The occupation Chandler of John could be considered a provision agent as shown in later census but directed more specifically to a shipping supplier. Hopefully more research will determine if this assumption is correct.
If the wife of John Thorp wasn’t Mary Whitney then a Mary Mather who Married a John Thorpe in 1855 in Ashton upon Lyne might be an interesting possibility as Mather is the surname of Thomas Whaite’s third wife Amy Malvina Mather.
Reside Date2 Apr 187112135
Reside PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
MemoLiving at 6 Clock Alley were John Thorp,40, Provision Dealer, his wife Mary, 37 and their Children Elizabeth E, 13, Card Tender, James W, 11, John Thomas,7, Mary Jane, 5 and Joseph, 2. Mary’s entry has her listed as “third wife” which may require further investigation.
Reside Date3 Apr 188112136
Reside PlaceManchester, Lancashire, England
MemoStill living at 6 Clock Alley were John Thorp, 50, Greengrocer, his wife Mary, 46, also a greengrocer and their children James W, 21 Cabinet Maker, John T, 17, a waiter, Mary J, 15, Milliner and Joseph, 12.
ChildrenElizabeth Ellen (1857-1936)
James W (ca1860-)
John Thomas (1863-1924)
Mary Jane (1865-1927)
Joseph (1869-1913)
Notes for Mary (Spouse 1)
See marriage notes as to why Mary Whitney is shown as Thomas Thorp’s wife.
Alternatively if John married Mary Mather then see her in 1841 & 1851 census (latter under DEAN)
William Matter died 1846 Q2 20/172 Chorlton
Ellen Mather remarried 1848 Q4 20/765 Oldham William Dean
Alternatively if John married Mary Mather then see her in 1841 & 1851 census (latter under DEAN)
William Matter died 1846 Q2 20/172 Chorlton
Ellen Mather remarried 1848 Q4 20/765 Oldham William Dean
Notes for Mary (Spouse 1)
1871 census has under profession “Provision Dealer” & “3rd wife?”
Notes for John & Mary (Family)
Name: Mary Mather & John Thorpe
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1855
Registration District: Ashton under Lyne
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d Page Number: 580
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1855
Registration District: Ashton under Lyne
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d Page Number: 580